In the 'About us' section Winnington Fine Wines Ltd modestly claim to be 'a leading wine broker' and are able to 'show a long term history of impressive returns'. Indeed 'impressive' as the company was formed on 23rd January 2012, so to become a 'leading wine broker' in less than two months is a startling achievement.
File from Companies House showing formation date of 23rd January 2012
On their website Winnington claim 'Your wine is stored at London City Bond'. This is incorrect as Winnington Fine Wines Ltd currently do not have an account at London City Bond.
Another company I wouldn't buy from...
Nice picture of cheese on their homepage though.
ReplyDeletedetails on who owns the url and where its hosted in Belgium, very strange as the biggest pop up points are across the river in telehouse and why would anyone host in Belgium???? when based in the docklands
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GENERAL COMPANY DETAILS & STATEMENTS OF;
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ReplyDeleteWINNINGTON FINE WINES LTD
07920451
Created: 07/03/2012 12:18:08
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Company Register Information
Company Number: 07920451 Date of Incorporation:23/01/2012
Company Name: WINNINGTON FINE WINES LTD
Registered Office: 40 MARSH WALL
DOCKLANDS
LONDON
LONDON
ENGLAND
E14 9TP
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Status: Active
Nature Of Business (SIC): None Supplied
Number of Charges: ( 0 outstanding / 0 part satisfied / 0 satisfied)
Previous Names
No previous name information has been recorded over the last 20 years.
Key Filing Dates
Accounting Reference Date: 31/01
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 23/10/2013
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 20/02/2013
Last Bulk Shareholders List: Not available
Current Appointments
Number of current appointments: 1
DIRECTOR: AZIZ, NAZIF MRS
Appointed: 23/01/2012 Date of Birth: 25/07/1972
Nationality: BRITISH
No. of Appointments: 1
Address: 40 MARSH WALL
DOCKLANDS
LONDON
LONDON
UNITED KINGDOM
E14 9TP
Country/State of Residence: UNITED KINGDOM
This Report excludes resignations
that company stinks like the cheese on there pictures
ReplyDeleteAnon. Bit harsh on the cheese – not indication that it stinks!
ReplyDeleteThey answer the telephones Winnington group so what else are they flogging???????????????
ReplyDeleteHi Jim
ReplyDeleteanymore news on Claret 1855 as they have dissapeared with peoples hard earned money and their wine??????
I believe the owner was pakistani, like the owner of Winningtomn wines, is there a connection????
Anon. I think you mean Eighteen55 Clarets Ltd. No news, I'm afraid. The company certainly appears to have disappeared.
ReplyDeleteI'm not aware that there is a connection between the two companies, although there may be. Many of these dubious wine investment companies appear to be linked. Also the director isn't necessarily the actual owner of the company – instead may be the patsy.
I see winnington have changed their name
ReplyDeleteName & Registered Office: Company No.: 06086691
WINNINGTON FINE WINES LTD
4TH FLOOR
40 MARSH WALL DOCKLANDS
LONDON
UNITED KINGDOM
E14 9TP
Date of Incorporation: 06/02/2007
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Status: Active
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature Of Business (SIC):
82990 - Other business support service activities not elsewhere classified
Accounting Reference Date: 29/02
Last Accounts Made Up To: 29/02/2012 (DORMANT)
Next Accounts Due: 30/11/2013
Last Return Made Up To: 06/02/2012
Next Return Due: 06/03/2013
Highlighted documents are not yet available for inspection
Mortgage: Number of Charges: ( 0 outstanding / 0 satisfied / 0 part satisfied )
Last members list: 06/02/2012
Previous Names
Date of Change: Previous Name:
07/03/2012 CREATING SUCCESS LTD
must be a connection with Eighteen55 Clarets Ltd.to change their name
ReplyDeleteAZIZ, NAZIF MRS DIRECTOR
ReplyDelete4TH FLOOR
40 MARSH WALL DOCKLANDS
LONDON
UNITED KINGDOM
E14 9TP Appointed: 29/02/2012
Nationality: BRITISH
Occupation: WINE BROKER
Country/State of Residence: UNITED KINGDOM
Date of Birth: 13/01/1958
Appointments: 2
DUPORT SECRETARY LIMITED NOMINEE SECRETARY
THE BRISTOL OFFICE 2 SOUTHFIELD ROAD
WESTBURY ON TRYM
BRISTOL
UNITED KINGDOM
BS9 3BH Appointed: 06/02/2007
Resigned: 29/02/2012
Nationality: BRITISH
Appointments: 0
DUPORT DIRECTOR LIMITED NOMINEE DIRECTOR
2 SOUTHFIELD ROAD
WESTBURY-ON-TRYM
BRISTOL
UNITED KINGDOM
BS9 3BH Appointed: 06/02/2007
Resigned: 29/02/2012
Nationality: BRITISH
Appointments: 0
VALAITIS, PETER MR DIRECTOR
SOUTHFIELD HOUSE 2 SOUTHFIELD ROAD
WESTBURY ON TRYM
BRISTOL
AVON
BS9 3BH Appointed: 12/09/2008
Resigned: 29/02/2012
Nationality: BRITISH
Occupation: COMPANY DIRECTOR
Country/State of Residence: UNITED KINGDOM
Date of Birth: 23/11/1950
Appointments: 11078
Name: NAZIF AZIZ
ReplyDeleteNationality: BRITISH
Latest Address: 4TH FLOOR
40 MARSH WALL DOCKLANDS
LONDON
Postcode: E14 9TP
Country/State of Residence: UNITED KINGDOM
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Date of Birth: 13/01/1958
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DIRECTOR Appointed: 28/09/2011
Occupation: INVESTMENT SPECIALIST
Company Number: 07790046
Company Name: GIG UK INVESTMENTS LTD
Active
DIRECTOR Appointed: 29/02/2012
Occupation: WINE BROKER
Company Number: 06086691
Company Name: WINNINGTON FINE WINES LTD
Active
Name & Registered Office: Company No.: 07790046
ReplyDeleteGIG UK INVESTMENTS LTD
40 MARSH WALL
LONDON
LONDON
LONDON
ENGLAND
E14 9TP
Date of Incorporation: 28/09/2011
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Status: Active
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature Of Business (SIC):
None Supplied
Accounting Reference Date: 30/09
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 28/06/2013
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 26/10/2012
Vine Capital Ltd details
ReplyDeletethey have also formed a new company selling carbon credits is that legitimate or a scam one has to wonder
LEE, JOHN JUNIOR MR
DIRECTOR
111 BUCKINGHAM PALACE ROAD
VICTORIA
WESTMINSTER
LONDON
SW1W 0SR Appointed: 19/11/2010
Nationality: BRITISH
Occupation: NONE
Country/State of Residence: UNITED KINGDOM
Date of Birth: 18/01/1979
Appointments: 6
GIGANTE, ALESSANDRO MR
DIRECTOR
5-8 CHARMWOOD FARM CHARMWOOD LANE
ORPINGTON
KENT
BR6 7SA Appointed: 02/08/2010
Resigned: 19/11/2010
Nationality: BRITISH
Occupation: FINANCIAL CONTROLLER
Country/State of Residence: UNITED KINGDOM
Date of Birth: 11/05/1979
Appointments: 2
________________________________________
SECRETARY Appointed: 12/04/2007
Occupation:
Company Number: 06210259
Company Name: LOGITECH SERVICES LIMITED
Active
DIRECTOR Appointed: 13/07/2006
Occupation: PROJECT ENGINEER
Company Number: 05875308
Company Name: WHITE ROCK ENGINEERING SERVICES LTD.
Active
DIRECTOR Appointed: 19/11/2010
Occupation: NONE
Company Number: 07332119
Company Name: VINE CAPITAL LTD
Active
DIRECTOR Appointed: 14/06/2011
Occupation: MANAGING DIRECTOR
Company Number: 07669121
Company Name: CARBON ENERGY RESOURCES LTD
Active
DIRECTOR Appointed: 02/02/2012
Occupation: MANAGING DIRECTOR
Company Number: 07934470
Company Name: JL JUNIOR SERVICES LTD
Active
DIRECTOR Appointed: 16/06/2006
Dissolved: 25/02/2009
Occupation: PROJECT ENGINEER
Company Number: 05848965
Company Name: JOHN LEE INTELLIGENT ENGINEERING SOLUTIONS LTD
DIRECTOR Appointed: 30/08/2011
Occupation: MUSICIAN
Company Number: 07756829
Company Name: HOUSE OF HATS LIMITED
Active
DIRECTOR Appointed: 02/08/2010
Resigned: 19/11/2010
Occupation: FINANCIAL CONTROLLER
Company Number: 07332119
Company Name: VINE CAPITAL LTD
Active
________________________________________
Name & Registered Office: Company No.: 07669121
ReplyDeleteCARBON ENERGY RESOURCES LTD
1 BERKELEY STREET
GREEN PARK
LONDON
W1J 8DJ
Date of Incorporation: 14/06/2011
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Status: Active
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature Of Business (SIC):
None Supplied
Accounting Reference Date: 30/06
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 14/03/2013
Last Return Made Up To:
Next Return Due: 12/07/2012
info on eighteen55 claret ltd
ReplyDeleteDIRECTOR Appointed: 08/06/2011
Occupation: COMPANY DIRECTOR
Company Number: 06626693
Company Name: EIGHTEEN55 CLARETS LIMITED
Active
DIRECTOR Appointed: 01/09/2011
Occupation: CO DIRECTOR
Company Number: 07381732
Company Name: W C P M ENTERPRISES LIMITED
Active
DIRECTOR Appointed: 01/07/2005
Dissolved: 06/11/2007
Occupation: COMPANY DIRECTOR
Company Number: 05020710
Company Name: HORUS INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
Dissolved
DIRECTOR Appointed: 01/03/2007
Dissolved: 20/11/2007
Occupation: COMPANY DIRECTOR
Company Number: 05135858
Company Name: VALE INCORPORATED LIMITED
Dissolved
DIRECTOR Appointed: 01/05/2008
Dissolved: 09/02/2011
Occupation: COMPANY DIRECT
Company Number: 06362383
Company Name: W C P M LIMITED
Dissolved
DIRECTOR Appointed: 24/07/2008
Dissolved: 03/11/2010
Occupation: DIRECTOR
Company Number: 06655315
Company Name: BOTWELL LANE RESIDENTS MANAGEMENT COMPANY LIMITED
W C P M ENTERPRISES LIMITED 55 DENMARK HILL
CAMBERWELL
LONDON
UNITED KINGDOM
SE5 8RS
Name :ALTAUR RAHMAN Nationality: BRITISH Latest Address: 1 CALANDER ROAD LONDON CATFORD Postcode: SE6 2QA Country/State of Residence: UNITED KINGDOM Date of Birth: 16/04/1973
Hi,
ReplyDeleteWe've been here before. See message 3087 and subsequent thread, almost a year ago, all about this company and so-called 'land banking' as an investment.
Countrywide Land Holdings is registered at 2nd floor, 145 St John Street, London EC1V 4PY. This is a very common address for company registrations. The company isn't really there in any physical sense. It's just the offices of the people who were paid to do the paperwork to set it up. I have seen it used in scams.
Countrywide is a fairly new company, incorporated on January 28 2005. It has filed to extend its accounting period, so its first accounts are not due until November 28 2006.
It has not yet had to file an annual return either, which will give an up to date picture of who owns it. This is due on February 25 2006.
The company's orginal director was Altaur Rahman, of 67 Woodham Road, Catford, London SE6 2SB, born April 16 1973. He resigned on June 24 2005. He is still a director of a separate company called Infinite Property Services Limited.
The current director of Countrywide is James Kenneth Maynard, of 1A Leslie Park Road, Croydon, Surrey CRO 6AT, born October 22 1980. He was appointed on June 24 2005. He has no other current or past directorships.
People need to be reminded and this is a bout Altur Rahman
Deletedid you know winnin gton wines has changed its name already???????
ReplyDeleteseems extremely strange would you not agree!!!!!
Did you know that embassy wine sis alos in Carbon Credits???????
ReplyDeleteThanks for all the comments and details. Winnington Fine Wines Ltd has done a double swap. Winnington Fine Wines Ltd (founded 23.1.2012) has become 07920451 Ltd, while Creating Success Ltd (No: 06086691 and set up on 6.2.2007) has become Winnington Fine Wines Ltd, whose last accounts have been made up 29.2.12 as a dormant company.
ReplyDeleteas i'm sure you've already spotted jim, peter valaitis is also the director of templar wines ltd (seemingly from the start), as is 'duport secretary limited' and 'duport director limited', so at least there's some more background to winnington fine wines...
ReplyDeleteObviously you must be part of that Group to
Deletea. Know so much!
b. Be so protective
so why use someone who has clearly no knowledge of wines as the MD, as it is quite that you have a female who is a Muslim as MD and this is known as HIRAM: against the order of her Religion!!!
if he is then why all the subterfuge, this is not the way to deal???????
ReplyDeletewinnington fine wines, what does she do as a director of GIG investments UK ltd what are they up to?
ReplyDeleteLooking forward to Tom Gearing of Cult wines being a contestant on the latest series of The Apprentice!
ReplyDeleteDear Jim
ReplyDeleteyour comments would be appreciated as on
http://www.world-widewines.co.uk/index.php/contact/
what do you think ?????????
WORLDWIDE WINE INVESTMENTS LIMITED'
Company Filing History Include Allotment of Shares
Type Date Description Order
AR01 16/02/2012 08/02/12 FULL LIST
LATEST SOC 16/02/2012 16/02/12 STATEMENT OF CAPITAL;GBP 1
TM01 16/02/2012 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GERAINT JONES
TM01 15/02/2012 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GERAINT JONES
TM02 14/02/2012 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, SECRETARY GERAINT JONES
AP01 14/02/2012 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MISS MELLISSA MUNSCH
TM02 14/02/2012 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, SECRETARY GERAINT JONES
AP03 12/12/2011 SECRETARY APPOINTED MR GERAINT JONES
AP01 12/12/2011 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR GERAINT JONES
TM01 10/12/2011 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR SHEKISHA HARRIS
TM01 26/11/2011 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GERIANT OWEN JONES
AP01 26/11/2011 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MISS SHEKISHA SCOTT HARRIS
TM01 26/11/2011 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR DONNA NEWMAN
AD01 03/08/2011 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 03/08/2011 FROM
LUMINOUS HOUSE 300 SOUTH ROW
MILTON KEYNES
BUCKS
MK9 2FR
ENGLAND
AR01 26/04/2011 08/04/11 FULL LIST
AA 06/12/2010 30/09/10 TOTAL EXEMPTION SMALL
CH01 29/11/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR GERAINT JONES / 15/10/2010
AP01 29/11/2010 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR GERIANT OWEN JONES
TM01 29/11/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GERAINT JONES
AR01 25/11/2010 12/10/10 FULL LIST
TM01 25/11/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR ADRIAN KOE
AA01 25/11/2010 PREVSHO FROM 31/03/2011 TO 30/09/2010
TM01 22/11/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR ADRIAN KOE
AP01 21/11/2010 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MISS DONNA NEWMAN
TM01 15/10/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR MATHEW AITKEN
CERTNM 15/10/2010 COMPANY NAME CHANGED CLEARPOINT TRADING LTD
CERTIFICATE ISSUED ON 15/10/10
RES15 15/10/2010 CHANGE OF NAME 13/10/2010
CONNOT 15/10/2010 NOTICE OF CHANGE OF NAME NM01 - RESOLUTION
AP01 15/10/2010 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR GERIANT JONES
TM01 14/10/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR ADRIAN KOE
AP01 13/10/2010 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MATHEW AITKEN
TM01 13/10/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR GERIANT JONES
CH01 12/10/2010 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / MR ADRIAN MICHAEL KOE / 12/10/2010
AD01 12/10/2010 REGISTERED OFFICE CHANGED ON 12/10/2010 FROM
2ND FLOOR
145-157 ST JOHN STREET
LONDON
EC1V 4PY
AP01 12/10/2010 DIRECTOR APPOINTED MR GERIANT JONES
TM01 12/10/2010 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR WESTCO DIRECTORS LTD
AA 29/09/2010 ACCOUNTS OF DORMANT COMPANY MADE UP TO 31/03/10
AR01 13/04/2010 12/04/10 FULL LIST
AA 25/01/2010 ACCOUNTS OF DORMANT COMPANY MADE UP TO 31/03/09
363a 03/07/2009 RETURN MADE UP TO 28/03/09; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
288c 01/07/2009 DIRECTOR'S CHANGE OF PARTICULARS / ADRIAN KOE / 02/03/2009
288a 09/12/2008 DIRECTOR APPOINTED ADRIAN KOE
288b 16/05/2008 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED SECRETARY WESTCO NOMINEES LIMITED
363a 13/05/2008 RETURN MADE UP TO 28/03/08; FULL LIST OF MEMBERS
AA 09/05/2008 ACCOUNTS OF DORMANT COMPANY MADE UP TO 31/03/08
NEWINC 28/03/2007 INCORPORATION DOCUMENTS
CERTIFICATE OF INCORPORATION
STATEMENT OF DIRECTORS & REGISTERED OFFICE
DECLARATION OF COMPLIANCE
MEMORANDUM OF ASSOCIATION
ARTICLES OF ASSOCIATION
Junior Stockbroker - Carbon MarketsPosted24/02/2012 (14:06)Agency/EmployerSuccess MovesDescription
ReplyDeleteAmbitious trainee sales operators are sought for high growth Fine Wine/Carbon Credit investment company. This Investment Sales company is focused on the high growth carbon market, although other alternative products are being added to the sales portfolio as the company continues its growth.
I can only accept applications from those who can sell, who know they can consistently perform and who have unwavering belief in their own abilities and potential.
My client demonstrates a great deal of support to its new and existing sales brokers in terms of constant education and sales training coupled with excellent remuneration and bonus structures.
You will:
• Be making over 200 calls everyday
• Be trained to open and close very large accounts with very high net worth clients, with many investments exceeding 6 figures and a number of others breaking the highly respected £1 million benchmark.
• Be talking to financially experienced High Net Worth Investors
• Be telling them what they should be doing with their money, having the confidence and credibility to back it up
• Be able to listen as well as speak
• Be expected to maintain discipline in the face of setbacks
• Be earning a monthly £1000 basic but your focus will be on the commission and bonuses that will far exceed this
• Be earning £10,000 a month, after 90 days.
The performance and focus of the current sales team are exemplary and can only be improved by individuals of a certain tenacity and personal strength. Successful applicants must be able to prove they can soak up new information fast, perform consistently under pressure and strive for the highest result.
We don't judge you on your CV, if you have clear English skills spoken in a fast paced upbeat way and can prove your abilities where and when it counts then we will give you the chance to earn. In the job, make no mistake, you will be calling real decision makers looking to invest their own money, some looking to invest substantial amounts. They want to be impressed, excited and enthused by a professional.
If you think you have got what it takes then apply today and receive your invitation to our Interview Process Day on Saturday the 17th of March. Successful applicants will be announced on the day.
LocationCentral London, South EastJob TypePermanentContract LengthN/A Salary/Rate£40000 - £95000/annum OTE £175,000 (comms focus)+bonusesContact NameDaniel Brown Telephone07527272603Job ReferenceLCN-Dan-TraineeMar17thJob ID118439529
Vintage Wine Junior Trader/Broker
ReplyDeleteJob ID: 49497Search Impressions: 1888Location: London, South East, , United KingdomZip / Post Code: E14Job Category: AIM, Alternative, CommoditiesRole: Employment Type: Full-timeSalary: £ 75,000-175,000 Posted: 12/03/2012incl Commission: £275,000.00 per year
Job Description
Our client is looking to recruit a new team for an award winning Alternative Investment Brokerage. One years experience opening and closing on the telephone is required but you may have had your business experience from any sector. We are looking to create and train a new team of elite individuals for what is probably the most liveliest, dynamic, fast paced, highest earning, and exciting work environment in the City of London.
The brokerage has an extensive database of decision makers, so you will be fed hot leads of qualified investors serious about making deals. Investment is a very fast moving competitive industry paying very high commissions. It suits those looking to work very hard and save a capital sum.
The lowest performers currently in the company earn five figures per month and we are looking for people to earn well in excess of six figures. Commission is 5-15% of every deal with closers enjoying the higher end of this percentage. Typical investments ranging from £5-£50,000 but many significantly higher than this. You should close at least 10 trades a month as a target. Succesful closers take hime over £20,000 per month.
We need clear communicators that are persuasive to complete deals. Skills in negotiation and diplomacy are of high importance. You will be thoroughly trained on this industry and the products. Making one more call to close the next deal is what it is all about.
The company offers carbon credits and other green investments. It has won awards for its professional approach and high integrity. These are currently in markets that are growing fast and secure. An investors dream! Thus there is a great deal of interest in investing in them.
Applicants must be proactive, confident, assertive, enthusiastic, determined, persuasive, positive and financially motivated.
Successful candidates will be trained on investments generally and on green alternative investments on an ongoing basis, both from internal experts and leading external people brought in all funded by the company. You must bring closing experience and/or the skills of conducting business and opening deals on the telephone with you.
You will have crystal clear English, spoken in a fast paced upbeat way. In the job make no mistake you will be making calls to decision makers investing their own money some looking to make substantial investments. They want to be impressed, excited and enthused by a professional.
Candidates should first send me their CV. If successful I will ask you to attend a group recruitment day at the Sofitel, London Gatwick on March 17th 2012. The day will start with a presentation to applicants at 11 am followed by role play exercises designed to assess your appropriateness for one of the three positions. In the afternoon a shortened group will be interviewed on a one to one basis. All costs of the event and subsequent ongoing training are borne by the company. Normal office hours are 11:00 to 7pm. My name is Daniel Brown, apply with CV to me initially.
Richard Smith
ReplyDeleteCarbon Credits Investment
London, United Kingdom Investment Management
Current
Managing Director at Blue Horizons Carbon
Past
Marketing, Lead Generation and Operations at European Fine Wines
Education
All Hallows R C School and Sixth Form
Connections
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Richard Smith's Experience
Managing Director
Blue Horizons Carbon
September 2011 – Present (7 months) Canary Wharf, London
Blue Horizons Carbon offer Carbon Credits as an Investment - "United Nations Carbon Credit prices may rise as much as 42% by 2012" Barclays Capital.
"Carbon could be one of the fastest growing markets ever, with volumes comparable to credit derivatives inside of a decade" Head of emissions trading, Merrill Lynch
Marketing, Lead Generation and Operations
European Fine Wines
Public Company; 51-200 employees; Financial Services industry
January 2011 – September 2011 (9 months) Bromley, Kent
Fine Wine Investment Company founded in 2005. Well respected in the industry and many satisfied clients seeing fantastic returns on the portfolios.
Richard Smith's Education
All Hallows R C School and Sixth Form
1992 – 1999
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you have proof European fine wines is into selling hot air ie carbon credits
ReplyDeleteThis is from an article from the Daily Mail, so is it there a connection JIM as its the same as
ReplyDeletewinnington fine wines so they must be landbankers as well or do I presume to much
GIG Properties uses the sam adress as
GIG INVESMENTS UK LTS
Name & Registered Office:
GIG PROPERTIES LTD
40 MARSH WALL
DOCKLANDS
LONDON
LONDON
ENGLAND
E14 9TP
Company No. 07799028
String of landbankers frozen out
By Andrew Penman on December 21, 2011 10:49 AM in Investments
The watchdog FSA has obtained interim injunctions and freezing orders from the High Court against a string of landbanking firms including St Clair Estates Limited, OFG Investments Limited, Option Land UK Limited, and GIG Properties Limited.
The money safeguarded by freezing the accounts comes to £850,000, believed to have been paid by customers investing in plots of land at Winkleigh Airfield in Devon.
Just had a call from Winnington Group. The spiel was about India being about to drop import duties on wine and that they were experts in Indian taste in wine. I had the Winkleigh Airfield pitch too, so they're using the same list of potential marks.
ReplyDeleteDear Jim
ReplyDeletewhat do I do, I have not been able to contact claret 1855, they just do not answer.
What do you recommend, the last contact I had was a letter stating that everything would be OK and they would be back to normal in January
What do you suggest they have my mnoney and wines
Anon Re Claret 1855. Please email me on budmac@btinternet.com
ReplyDeleteSimply tremendous comedy wine writing to be found on the website of vintage wine investments (www.vintagewineinvesments.com), who - apparently - sell the 'top winer of Franceis'
ReplyDeleteToo many laughs to list here, but my favourite is on their brochure request box: "why wine is a intelligent investment". Bravo!
Anon. A classic indeed. Now as a separate post. Thanks Jim
ReplyDeletehttp://www.vintagewineinvestors.com/
ReplyDeleteand another !!!!!!!!
Vintage Wine Investors is a UK Bordeaux Fine Wine Trader, and as such we are qualified to give information regarding vintages and wines, their quality and prevailing market conditions. This information is based upon our knowledge, acquired from over 15 years of trading, and our daily dealings in the global wine market. Using our knowledge of this market, we can provide valuations for wines and, in conjunction with past performance of wine’s, we can give you our informed opinion as to whether a wine may have the ability to accrue value.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.vintagewineinvestors.com/investment-policy.php
That paragraph is plagiarised from the Farr vintners website, pretty much verbatim
ReplyDeletehttp://www.farrvintners.com/wine_investment.php
Winnington Fine Wines tried to charge me 60% mark up on market price... but that did include brokerage charges and storage!
ReplyDeleteI was cold-called by Winnington Fine Wines by a very nice senior broker called Daniel. Over the course of two or three interesting telephone conversations I came to agree that the fine wine market was for me.
Daniel gave me a quote on two cases on 12/04/12:
Cos D’Estournel (09) 12 x 75cl @ £4,480
Pontet Canet (09) 12 x 75cl @ £2,660
This did include brokerage buying-in fees and storage/insurance (@19.95 + VAT per case per year) for the first year.
This came to about the level of my available savings so I:
• Checked their website
• Received their transaction paperwork and glossy brochure
• Started to fill in the withdraw form for all savings from National Savings and Investments (Winnington did kindly offer to reduce their brokerage fee by the amount I was going to lose through early withdrawal).
Before I sent anything off, I thought I really should check out the company a little more thoroughly and that led me to this blog post (http://investdrinks-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/winnington-fine-wines-ltd-leading-wine.html) and comments which made me suspicious.
So then I thought I should check out the prices quoted. I went to Fine and Rare at http://www.frw.co.uk/searchWines.aspx?keywords=Cos+d+Estournel+2009&sid=4&FRS=ws and found:
Cos D’Estournel (09) 12 x 75cl @ £2,763 (so Winnington were 62% more expensive but that did include their brokerage buying-in fee and storage/insurance)
Pontet Canet (09) 12 x 75cl @ £1,787 (so Winnington were 49% more expensive this time but still inc. brokerage buying-in fee and storage/insurance)
Through Fine and Rare Wines there were no buying in fees to be paid but obviously storage and insurance at about £9 + VAT a case per year had to be added on.
I phoned Winnington Fine Wines with my concerns. Their argument was:
• Didn’t I agree that as a naive investor I needed Winnington’s expertise, market reports and database of hundreds of customers when I wanted to sell out (Yes, I definitely do need all of that and thought that was what their 10% buy in charge was for – originally I was told 5% buy in then another 5% on the profit made when I sell out. However, I would also like to trust my broker to find me the best market price available.)
After cancelling the trade and ending the conversation with Daniel a manager phoned back almost immediately to “clear up any misunderstanding”. He gave up a lot of his time to:
• Repeat the above point
• Say that I didn’t understand the difference between the retail and wholesale market
• Say that Fine and Rare were not a brokerage, could not give advice, market reports etc and could not sell my wine for me when I wished to sell out (none of which is accurate)
• Say that I couldn’t buy at that market price from F&RW anyway as it was the wholesale price (I think) – I would have to buy hundreds of cases (I phoned F&RW up – I could buy – minimum order £200 – no buy-in commission)
• Say that F&RW where only selling the Cos D’Estournel at that price as stock clearance – they only had two cases left (I thought that as the supply dried up, the price rose... isn’t that the plan? Anyway, Daniel had previously urged me to put down a deposit to freeze their price on the Cos as they only had 4 cases left out of 50. Also, the Pontet Canet which Winnington had marked up by 49% was in stock as well – they had about 65 cases of that available.)
And then the senior broker said:
• They would drop their offer price of the Cos D’Estournel to £3600 as I “was a first time investor”
Naturally I declined.
Oops - run out of space. Part II next
Winnington Fine Wines tried to charge me 60% mark up on market price... but that did include brokerage charges and storage! PART 2
ReplyDelete(Please see previous post for the first half of this account)
My naive wine investor mind is trying to work out why Winnington Fine Wines wanted to charge me a 62% and 49% mark-up on the market price (inc brokerage and storage/insurance). So far I have speculated it could have been for a number of reasons:
• I was new to the market and wouldn’t check market prices
• They wanted to make a killing on selling their own stock
• They were trying to off-load a case from one of their large database of clients who perhaps had bought from them at a high price and now couldn’t sell on the open market
• Winnington can only buy from a limited range of sources
• I’m missing something.
On the plus side for Winnington:
• Daniel was very pleasant, polite and enthusiastic about the great opportunities in fine wine investment.
• Winnington Fine Wines do now have a London City Bond Warehouse account - # WIN025 (they said) and are registered with LIV-EX (they said) so they are geared up to sell wine to lots more folk like me with impunity.
I offer this account of my experience as information only to any would be investors – they must do their own research and make up their own minds.
As for me, I’m still very keen to investigate this market further but I need some independent advice – any ideas?
From one 'Anonymous' to another,
ReplyDeletea bit of independent advise, there seems to be lots of reasons why not to buy wine from winnington (as you've highlighted) and absolutely no reason to buy from winnington!
In summary:
1. They're a new company with no clear track record for delivering stock (either physical or en primeur)
2. They tell blatant lies about their experience and track record on their website and on the phone as clearly documented on this blog (and i can vouch for the lies having spoken to one of them on the phone)
3. They even have the cheek to lie about other companies who've been around for a number of years, operating a reputable service
4. They were incorporated in January this year! So they've probably still got their phonetic spellings on the wall - la-feet, do-crew bo-kie-you...
5. Jim clearly exposed them trying to cover up their recent incorporation by swapping names with a dormant business incorporated in 2007
6. They're selling wines for far more than you can buy elsewhere (even with a portfolio management service i suspect)
7. Website littered with typos and what appears to be bootlegged information.
8. "Our QUALIFIED research and analytical team" - which qualifications are these? I'd be surprised if anyone at winnington could tell you what WSET even stands for
9. Winnington cold-called you, surely the final nail in the coffin?!
Anyone who invests with winnington (or losington depending what way you look at it) needs their head examined.
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ReplyDeleteI've been called by Winnington Wines following their firstly cold calling and then sending a brochure a few days ago. I got all the speil that has been said previously in this column about their style, And funnily enough with regard to land banking scams mentioned, I received several calls a few months ago from different companies.
ReplyDeleteI was involved in landbanking myself a few years ago only quite legitamately with the institution I worked for. The land waa farmed by us and we tried to get planning permission on some plots, often in association with reputable house builders but generally without success. How some of these companies referred to can sell little plots hardly large enough for one house at several times agricultural value with no hope of the purchasors that they'll ever get permission I don't know. So I was interested to read there may be links between these companies and some in the fine wine investment field. And more so the links with carbon trading companies. Where is the expertise in these companies, there must be some genius salepersons around if they know all there is to know about housing development, carbon trading and wine investment. We spent several years gaining expertise in property development alone!
Give them all a wide berth!!
I just talked to adam at Winnington Wines
ReplyDeletehe talked and talked trying to get me to invest in fine wines in the end i said ok i will invest
£1000 he said that was not enough he wanted £5000
he said for me to make 10% intrest a year i would need to invest £5000 it was like talking to a used
car salesman he was pushing and pushing for more money in the end i did the right thing i said no thanks and hung up the phone then i found these blog and after reading it relise how close i came to losing £5000
I had a phone call from them, and as I am very busy at work I said to him from the outset, that I am not being rude but I'm very busy so if he could get to the point it would be very appreciated.
ReplyDeleteHe kept asking me straight forward questions that just facilitated a 'yes' from me every time about my current finances and savings not achieving the high rate of interest from years ago.
I used to get cold calls from 'Fine Wine Investments' that irritated me and I thought they had stopped. He never once mentioned fine wines, just kept talking about his portfolio of current clients achieving 10-12% return.
When I asked if he was touting to take me on as a client, he said no, I'm just telling you what I do and then you'll ask to be taken on. Only after a google search did I find out it's another fine wines investment company. He sounded very crestfallen when I told him that I'm sorry I'm not interested, but thank you for your time.
Time to change my phone number I think.
A fiend of mine was convinced to go with Winnington to safeguard his £2000 ISA. They offered him a case of Cos D'Estournel for exactly £2000 in order to take full advantage of the Indian bull run. This wine only has an RP score of 92 points unlike the 2009 which has a score of 100. This great value wine is available from Farr Vintners for £840. So their profit would be £1160. At a 10% return per year my fiend would have to hold onto this wine for over 12 years. Great sound investment advice from this company who are all about "building a long term business relationship with their clients."
ReplyDeleteThe lady Tania seemed quite genuine with wanting to help me although I could hear her being coached in the background by some man with appalling grammar. Perhaps some investment in the use of a dictionary and some old fashioned english language lessons would be more applicable to this company rather than telling my friend about the capital ersosion of his ISA.
Alex Hamilton is a non exec director of the company and runs the office in Canary wharf London
ReplyDeleteI worked for them briefly when they were based at 40 Marsh Wall. They hide behind fake identities: Adam Brown that leading wine broker is a turkish muslim called Kadirl Alex hamilton is in fact Ali Sademloup, Morgan Brown is Anthony Wood, Hugo Roberts is really called Rami Philips. Everyone was encouraged to hide behind fake identity - "it means that there's no comebacks for you - you don't exist."
DeleteLooking back, I am just gald that my brief interlude with the Winnington Group only6 lasted a couple of days
I don't know about Winnington but certainly in the trials that have involved wine or whisky investment companies it was clear that the use of false names was customary.
DeleteNot at all surprised Jim that the Winnington Way mirrors the behaviour of companies that have been in court. Hardly bodes well as a working ethos
DeleteAs a wine trader for the last 5 years i am amazed that these sort of companies are allowed to get away with this...is it not miss selling if you sell a product with such a high mark up they will find it almost impossible to make a profit,??
ReplyDeletei checked out winnington group,wine, property , travel...their site even has Burgundy wines as a right bank wine...experts ...really? its a bordeaux
avoid these cowboys
Looking at their website it is obvious that illiteracy is a theme running throughout their documentation. So it is hardly surprising that a lack of geographical knowledge and common sense are themes. This director based in Canary Wharf is he Alex Hamilton or Alex Simpleton? Probably the latter working for the Scammington Group.
Deleteoh dear I just googled Winnington and I found Winnington International based at the same plush Canary Wharf address as Winnington Fine Wines. They are now offering off plan property in Turkey.
ReplyDeleteHere is the stuff on their website:
Winnington International was created to research, explore, and manage the relationships between innovative luxury resorts in emerging property markets with desired tourism destinations and progressive investors. We specialize in low-risk, high yielding luxury resorts in emerging markets offering outstanding capital appreciation as well as competitive rental yields coupling both capital growth and a fixed income with excusive projects available to private investors.
We look for alternative and innovative luxury resort projects that are on the leading edge of both property in emerging markets as well as established and rapidly expanding tourism destinations. Our team of motivated individuals holds years of combined experience in the fields of property development and investment knowledge.
This allows us to intelligently determine projects with the most potential for high returns in order to achieve both capital appreciation and high yielding income with minimal risk, which should be the priority of every cautious investor’s portfolio.
All Private investors have an exclusive opportunity to be involved in our rapidly expanding portfolio, as we rely on forward-thinking investors to support new property innovations and the emboldened research it takes to ensure a sustainable future of continuous growth.
Our mission is to create wealth with leading Luxury resorts, with the latest and most productive projects in rapidly expanding destinations available to our investors. We continually strive to be on the cutting edge of the off-plan property industry and among its elite leaders.
If you click on the management tab there is a mention of Winnington Hotels and resorts who offer "Europe’s leading resort and tour operators with one of the worlds most established and growing tourism destinations. The upmost priority is to provide an outstanding level of service to reflect the luxury of our resort and capitalize on the year on year growing attraction the one of the world’s impressive tourism destinations."
"Winnington Hotels and resorts operate as our group’s management division to offer the opportunity of capital growth, rental income and security of 100% freehold ownership in an ‘armchair’ investment environment."
Why can I not find Winnington Hotels and resorts listed on Companies House webchecker? Could it be because they don't exist?
I could however find 40 companies that have been formed at some point that are or were called Winnington. I'm sure that they're not all linked (I truly hope not)...but there is definitely something fishy going on here.
I've been called by Winnington International and was thinking of investing. I decided to google Winngton and found this blog which made for interesting and at times slightly amusing reading. It was not until I saw the comment about Canary Wharf that I realised that Winnington International and Winnington Fine Wine are based at the same address. Perhaps a coincidence???
ReplyDeleteThe broker who phoned me and whose name is on the paperwork is Adam Brown. I've checked the paperwork 3 time now. Starting to get worried now!
I have noticed that they have a legal partner called Dale R Walker. They mentioned that everything was legally guaranteed and due to SIPP approval had been checked over by a leading legal company and that if I wished to meet them in the Citigroup tower in Canary Wharf then I could do so. I have just checked found their legal partner and checked them out on the Law Society website. Here's what I found:
Find a solicitor
DALE R WALKER - Head Office
Phone Number: 01732 779 369
Fax Number: 01732 450 704
Email Address: info@dalerwalkersolicitor.co.uk
At this office: Wheelchair Access: No
Legal Aid: Yes
Fixed Fee Interview: Yes
Authorised Trainer: No
ID: 70055
Address: Suite 1
145 High Street
SEVENOAKS
KENT
TN13 1XJ
ENGLAND
Number of offices: 1
Number of regulated principals in this organisation: 1
Number of regulated principals at this office: 1
Number of solicitors and lawyers at this office: 1
Areas of law:
Business affairs, Civil litigation, Commercial property, Conveyancing residential, Criminal law, Debt and money advice
Lexcel Accreditation: No
"Lexcel accreditation is the Law Society benchmark for excellence in practice management." Not only is this company lacking Lexcel accreditation in any of the areas that it practices it is also lacks more than 1 member of staff who is legally qualified, which is highly worrying in my opinion.
Thank for for your website, you have probably saved me nearly £50,000 which I was thinking of investing in a 2 bed off plan appartment. Their glossy brochure has been ripped up and placed in the recycling for the bin men to take away tomorrow morning. Next step will be a change of phone number.
Thank you so much to you all for your comments regarding Winnington I am just very glad I found this blog before I made one of the most foolish and costly decisions of my life.
i have just read your last blogg with interest. These people called me about investing and starting telling me my bonds were no good and and my isa was losing me money, effectively.....whatever that is supposed to mean??
ReplyDeleteI got a brochure via email which looked nice and made some very bold statements about them and their experience. They have been running for less than a year!! hardly est 1929 Some guy who was SENIOR MANAGEMENT Started harping on abut India and appelation controlee ..pronounced in a french/essex dialect that ammused me slightly.I said no and they still continue to call with a new angle...AVOID THESE CHIMPS IN SUITS ...THEY WONT LEAVE YOU ALONE.
So true. They called me telling me my ISA was rubbish, which I must admit, I do know. The chap who called me, Rahmi something, said they were called Rimmington then I got their brochure and it stated Winnington. Obvious language/pronounciation issues their end.
Deletei worked at winnington fine wines, there companies have had money frozen by fsa,no one had a clue about wine, their prices were high,and all the owner or manager or whatever he was Ali wanted to do was have the company floated ftse in 5 years, no bloody chance, i have no proof but i asked questions and was fired, for not having the right attitude. narcasistic self obsessed brokers, the comment above is apt, they are chimps in suits
ReplyDeleteI had a call from Adam Brown telling me how my utilities share portfolio was not performing and had only achieved an average of 2% per annum. I found this strange as I had specifically picked utilities as companies such as Centrica and Edf are posting good profits. As a seasoned investor (over 30 years) I must know compared to this seasoned investment professional who informed that "you was previously speaking to one of my junior brokers.." It should be you were...obviously english is not a strong language with this person.
ReplyDeleteAnyway he had a billionaires package he wished to share with me including Chateau Petrus at £37,000. Strange that this same case is £24,000 from Farr Vintners. £13,000 profit for assisting me with his advise and enduring his excellent elocution...I think not.
Who does he think he is dealing with??? Billionaires package indeed. If I was a billionaire I would have my own accountant who would manage my portfolio and someone to screen calls from such total idiots.
Do they seriously think that as a successful businessman I would not do my own research? Why does everything need to be done verbally with them? Why are they scared to commit anything in writing? Obvious answer would be that their lies if documented would get them into big trouble. The titanic seems more buoyant than this company!
I have been called by Winnington International and I am deciding to invest. I am very happy with the assistance that I have received.
ReplyDeleteFrom my point of view if you are looking for negative things on the internet they will always be there to see.
Do not forget that this is just a blog.
Almost everything will have negative publicity and you will see it if you look.
But authorities are not stupid and if there was a problem then you would not be receiving any calls.
In my opinion go with what you think and believe to be true.
I am a cautious person and I have have great assistance and will be purchasing through this company.
Anon. Obviously your decision if you decide to deal with a company that uses cold calls.
ReplyDelete'But authorities are not stupid and if there was a problem then you would not be receiving any calls.' This type of wine investment is not regulated. If it was cold calls would be banned.
They've anondoned ship at thier offices in canary wharf.
ReplyDeleteDidnt even leave a nice bottle of wine as a leavingg gift, but then why would you when you aint paid rent!
Gexton. Many thanks for the codes.
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