tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post5920534022545555568..comments2023-11-08T06:40:36.804+00:00Comments on investdrinks (blog): Nouveau World Wines Ltd/Finbow Wines Ltd: the details of the verdicts Jim's Loirehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-66148292081742789432013-09-09T18:22:57.639+01:002013-09-09T18:22:57.639+01:00Please see latest post.Please see latest post.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-37629122099998354992013-09-09T15:03:28.214+01:002013-09-09T15:03:28.214+01:00what was the sentencing ??what was the sentencing ??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-19701163322996135232013-07-31T10:41:50.381+01:002013-07-31T10:41:50.381+01:00appreciated for this info but i was not describing...appreciated for this info but i was not describing the "set up loan" from Daniel Snelling but the "good bye" package from Billy Davies, to Simon Dempsey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-53232744709194482172013-07-30T14:21:25.913+01:002013-07-30T14:21:25.913+01:00Correction: During the trial the £25,000, later in...Correction: During the trial the £25,000, later increased to £35,000, was described as a loan. Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-30982210158272099322013-07-30T12:56:58.826+01:002013-07-30T12:56:58.826+01:00Consider yourself blessed! You were paid off with ...Consider yourself blessed! You were paid off with £25000 cash another £60000 to follow for departing the company, this is without any interim earnings. You were found innocent.<br />Innocent people have been found guilty! People earning sums considerably less and paying tax on these earnings who are indeed innocent of what they have been accused!<br />It is good of you to acknowledge this and should any thing more come to light to the Crown, IE, the real perpetrators and beneficiaries of this fraud, to warrant a retrial or appeal, you could be called upon to attest the innocence of those wrongly found guilty.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-13989436804329673752013-07-22T12:51:00.507+01:002013-07-22T12:51:00.507+01:00The Met would welcome any information that would h...The Met would welcome any information that would help them in their search for Billy Davies.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-52172596722719285622013-07-19T19:04:29.529+01:002013-07-19T19:04:29.529+01:00Simon Dempsey
"The Crown painted a nice sim...Simon Dempsey <br /><br />"The Crown painted a nice simple picture all tied up neatly with a little bow on top of a fraud perpetrated by brothers and sisters and other family members, and it is this media portrayal that has angered me as it is inaccurate and does not tell the whole story."<br /><br />Sir , it was not the Crown , police or the press that returned a guilty verdict on the Snelling family but A JURY! the same Jury that returned a no guilty verdict for you. The suggestions in your rant on here that perhaps the Jury did not get the full story is shameful! Perhaps the full story has not been told but then again when one of the partners a Mr Billy Davies is hiding what do you expect?<br /><br />Although the criminal prosecution against you maybe over ,the strong possibility of a Civil Action against you would surely encourage you to pipe down.<br /><br />I´m sure Billy will have a few things to say about you.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-13140508869294579682013-07-19T18:08:47.330+01:002013-07-19T18:08:47.330+01:00Although Dina Snelling was paid by cheque (or bank...Although Dina Snelling was paid by cheque (or bank transfer) during Nouveau, in the Finbow period she was paid in cash.<br /><br />How could Finbow guarantee to buy back the cheap Italian white wine they were supposed to be sending to China (only two consignments actually ever sent)at the end of a year if Finbow hadn't managed to sell the wine by then? It is very likely that professional buyers would be looking for the next vintage, so even if Finbow had shipped all the wine its investors had ordered its resale value would probably be small at best.<br /><br />In the early stages (July/August 2009) when Finbow was proposing fine wines from Bordeaux, who amongst the sales staff would have had the necessary knowledge and experience of the wines that were being offered as an investment? Or were they all working from a script? Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-9603056079682890762013-07-19T09:59:30.819+01:002013-07-19T09:59:30.819+01:00Simon Dempsey
Thanks for your comments. I am assu...Simon Dempsey<br /><br />Thanks for your comments. I am assure you that you are being too sensitive here – as I explained I included my speculation as I was impressed by your speech. <br /><br />In my Breaking News post I referred only to the defence put up by Daniel Snelling making no comment about the evidence presented in relation to Dina Snelling, Rebecca McDonald or yourself, although I was present for at least some of your evidence and cross-examination.<br /><br />It is clear that Daniel Snelling is a serial fraudster. There are questions to ask about the Sandy Pines Bulgarian property scheme apparently run in connection with Matthew Hart of Encarta Wines Ltd. It looks like Green Leaf was another incipient scam as M 2 M presumably was.<br /><br />As you are aware the police are still looking for Billy Davies. Presumably if he is found he is likely to be arrested and charged. Paul Rees and Paul Kelly have both relatively recently been convicted of other offences – money laundering in the case of Kelly. <br /><br />Regards<br />Jim BuddJim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-1854218144119023042013-07-19T08:38:05.787+01:002013-07-19T08:38:05.787+01:00Mr Budd, as you failed to mention the complete lac...Mr Budd, as you failed to mention the complete lack of any evidence against me, possibly due to the fact that you were not present during all of the trial and only mention my speech it appears to me to infer that it is only due to this that I was acquitted. Perhaps I am being too sensitive on this issue.<br /><br />With regards to lavish lifestyles, after I resigned from Finbow, I was working on a building site and certainly never led a lavish one during my time there, as the evidence showed. Dina Snelling lived in a 2 bed flat with her parents and her daughter and drove a 5 year old Freelander and Miss Macdonald lived in the family home she has lived in for years. They were paid office workers hardly city high flyers. I would be extremely curious to see if they would have been charged if they were not related to Daniel Snelling but I guess that's something that we will never know. <br /><br />I cannot speak for what happened at Nouveau as I was not involved but something clearly went wrong at Finbow after my departure and you yourself are aware of many key players, mentioned in open court, that were not named on this indictment. The Crown painted a nice simple picture all tied up neatly with a little bow on top of a fraud perpetrated by brothers and sisters and other family members, and it is this media portrayal that has angered me as it is inaccurate and does not tell the whole story.<br /><br />Anyway, I guess you and I will never see eye to eye on many of these matters and a long drawn out debate in a public forum will be unlikely to resolve our differences. I simply wanted to comment on some of the things that I have seen and read since this trial began and I thank you for at least having the courtesy to publish and respond to some of those comments, unlike the Daily Mail, who failed to even publish my email let alone reply to it. Regards Simon DempseyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-54040681133781505462013-07-18T22:46:42.609+01:002013-07-18T22:46:42.609+01:00Simon Dempsey
Thank you for your comments.
I hav...Simon Dempsey<br /><br />Thank you for your comments.<br /><br />I have no personal agenda against either Daniel or Dina Snelling, although I do have a declared agenda against people who knowingly fleece people of their life savings. There will doubtless be many investors in Nouveau World Wines and Finbow Wines whose retirement will have been considerably affected by these frauds – a long term financial mugging. Frauds that were perpetrated to provide the Snellings with a luxurious lifestyle including flashly cars and cosmetic surgery.<br /><br />Although I spent a considerable time in court I obviously did not witness the whole eight weeks nor have access to the documents that were available to the jury. However, the jury, who did have access to the FULL evidence, found Daniel Snelling and Dina Snelling guilty on all counts. I am delighted by these verdicts.<br /><br />I did indeed speak to the officers involved in this case. Howver, everything that I posted on investdrinks during the trial was based on what was said in open court and I challenge you to pick out anything in my reporting of the case that was not said in open court.<br /><br />I did not speak to the prosecution. During my visits to the court I took copious notes – some 100 pages in a reporter's notebook.<br /><br />Regarding your acquittal on all charges I was careful to highlight this. You write:<br /><br />'You're (sic) suggestion that my acquittal was based solely on my personally delivered speech rather than the complete lack of evidence against me is nothing other than ridiculous.'<br /><br />Can I commend that you read carefully what I wrote before you make the above absurd charge:<br /><br />'I wonder and will never know how much Simon Dempsey's brief but well delivered defence speech played in his favour with the jury.'<br /><br />I was impressed by your speech to the jury, so it is surely entirely reasonable that this may well have played in your favour. There is absolutely no suggestion here that your acquittal was based solely on your speech.<br /><br />What media frenzy are you talking about? Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-32296905337660939402013-07-18T21:23:20.435+01:002013-07-18T21:23:20.435+01:00Mr Budd, you're reporting of this story has be...Mr Budd, you're reporting of this story has been based on your intermediate attendance at Court and the titbits fed to you by the officers in the case which I have personally witnessed. At least the jury made their decision based on the FULL evidence presented to them rather than intermittent attendance by somebody with a personal agenda against Daniel Snelling. You were not present for his evidence in chief, nor where you present for mine. The accuracy of your reporting is correct only in so far as my cross examination was based solely on nit picking and legal semantics of my consistent accounts of this horrible situation. You're suggestion that my acquittal was based solely on my personally delivered speech rather than the complete lack of evidence against me is nothing other than ridiculous. As was your publishing of my daughters name, which I found repugnant, and my personal bank account details. In your rush to publish sensationalist headlines you have contributed to a media frenzy which is both distasteful and inaccurate. Whilst I do not for one minute forget the terrible losses that investors have suffered, it does not justify the personal witch hunt against individual families and their children based on sound bites and condensed press releases to satisfy a media blood lust. If you want the full story, then by all means, be a journalist and dig into that, don't be hand fed quotes from the prosecution. Journalism is supposed to be a reflection of both sides of the story but it would appear that both you and the Daily Mail are cut from the same cloth, inflammatory, inaccurate personal opinions posted either in print or online to progress your own agendas. I would be happy to discuss this matter with you personally should you wish to hear an alternate version of events. Regards Simon Dempsey Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-67970939590745307752013-07-18T08:48:06.292+01:002013-07-18T08:48:06.292+01:00Received during the trial but not published. They ...Received during the trial but not published. They are searching for him.Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-82997144745105664842013-07-17T21:21:33.029+01:002013-07-17T21:21:33.029+01:00Anon. Not sure why this is the case but it is not ...Anon. Not sure why this is the case but it is not unusual. Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-79078372066829875652013-07-17T20:00:39.577+01:002013-07-17T20:00:39.577+01:00Jim, why is there a gap between the end of the cas...Jim, why is there a gap between the end of the case & sentencing ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-9769526176732653952013-07-17T17:34:04.903+01:002013-07-17T17:34:04.903+01:00Anon. Many thanks. Could you email me on budmac@bt...Anon. Many thanks. Could you email me on budmac@btinternet.com and I can provide you with an email address. Jim's Loirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06696024920441263899noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-63122058700991908772013-07-17T16:34:20.938+01:002013-07-17T16:34:20.938+01:00do you have contact details for Andrew Bailey of D...do you have contact details for Andrew Bailey of DC Carl Hughes?? I maybe able to help them locate Billy DaviesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1567042805993048802.post-40089944649812571882013-07-17T16:30:56.548+01:002013-07-17T16:30:56.548+01:00Why didn´t the police arrest Billy Davies previous...Why didn´t the police arrest Billy Davies previously?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com