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why I thought bthey were good companies?????
ReplyDeletewhy not dig the dirt on Bordeaux UK
ReplyDeleteAnon. I'm sure that Bob Howard would be interested to hear about Bordeaux UK and probably Vin Bordelais Ltd.
ReplyDeletewhy not you tell him as its more credible from you!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnon. I wouldn't be sure that is the case. Bob is aware of Bordeaux UK and Vin Bordelais Ltd and would I'm sure be happy to hear from you. It is always useful to have more than one source of information.
ReplyDeleteSee http://www.investinginfinewines.co.uk/
ReplyDeleteWhy wont you say anything Jim...I mean you seem to tar everyone with the same brush, why dont you dig a bit Jim...By the way whats a track record is it a company that have made money for a client or is it a company thats proven to buy the wine.. What if a company has only just formed and are buying the wine but the director has been in the industry for over 10 years do they have a track record due to the directors experiance or no track record due to the company only being around for 6 months say.. hilarious, so much grey matter its a joke...
ReplyDeleteAnon. Not sure which company you are referring to if it is Bordeaux UK you will find two very recent posts on this company and the follow up Vin Bordelais.
ReplyDeleteAnon: See also
ReplyDeletehttp://investdrinks-blog.blogspot.com/2011/11/wsta-wine-spirit-trade-association.html
I believe anon was asking you to define a companies track record by your standards? If not I'm asking that question now. In your eyes what constitutes a track record for a company selling wine?
ReplyDeleteAnon. Given that there can be a gap of two years between paying for your Bordeaux en primeur and it arriving in your bonded warehouse account it is clearly sensible to buy from a company that has been established a while and has a record of delivering en primeur. This isn't, of course, a complete guarantee because of the inherent risks involved in buying en primeur.
ReplyDeleteThis is why I wouldn't consider buying en primeur from a recently formed company, especially if I knew nothing about it and its management. Unfortunately clients of Bordeaux UK, Blue Chip Fine Wines and, probably, Eighteen 55 Ltd are all now discovering that they would have been better of dealing with companies that do have an established track record in delivering en primeur.
I could give you right now a list of 10 companies that look to be independent that are infact all under the tutelage of 1 man.....
ReplyDeleteForget en primeur for 2 seconds, let's talk track record full stop...
ReplyDeleteI see what anon nov 11 is saying, en primeur aside if a person had been in the wine Market in any capacity for a number of years but had recently formed a brand new either merchants or wine investment co, would there be a track record there or not jim???
ReplyDeleteCan you also explain this bbr was incorporated as a ltd company in only 2005, have they really been around for hundreds of years ???
Keep up the good work jim